Garmin Varia Radar Support

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planet_coke
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Garmin Varia Radar Support

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Hi!

Is there any information known (or leaked) about the support for the Garmin Varia Radar system - or the matching ant+ profile?

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Coke

JohnJ80
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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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It’s in their roadmap which is due for a refresh. In discussions I’ve had with them they see the benefit in supporting it. You should add your voice to this to help
Move it up the priority list.

planet_coke
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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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Now included in the released firmware.

Brad
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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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DC Rainmaker : Hammerhead Adds Radar Support.

https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2019/10/wee ... reach.html
I ran into a bit of a snag: My unit wouldn’t pair to the radar. I then pulled out a second Varia radar. No dice. Then I pulled out a second Hammerhead Karoo. Still no dice. So I e-mailed Hammerhead and turns out those serial numbers I have were impacted by some hardware issues. No love for them.

... all of that is great. Except that elephant again: There’s no audio on the Hammerhead Karoo. As such, there’s no beeping of approaching vehicles because there is no beeper on the Karoo at all. You must be looking at your head unit at all times in order to get/see notifications cars. Which, I think is kinda a deal breaker. Just like it was a deal breaker for me for a navigation-focused unit.

He's not wrong .. :roll:

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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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I used my Varia with the Karoo over the last weekend....looked pretty, worked well, no audio obviously. I was thinking of getting a £20 handlebar bluetooth speaker and i probably have a helmet somewhere with built in speakers but...

nordog
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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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I don't like to ride my eBike without the radar now, I find it very useful and works well, not perfect.

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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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I don't get the idea of this radar. I mean, I have ears, right? If traffic is so heavy my sense of sound direction isn't enough, the radar would be alerting all over the place anyway, whereas if I'm on a lonely country road with a vehicle passing by every couple of minutes, I can hear them. Above like 30 km/h, the main source of noise is the wheels, not the motor, so even electric vehicles are easy to hear at relevant speeds. And if you get a radar alert, what's your reaction, turn around every time? Sure, you could have your rear light turn really bright on approach, but with the current to run the radar you could probably run a whole christmas tree of rear lights. I do love my bike gadgets, but this seems like one too many ;)

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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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... well I am tempted by it. I am deaf so it is a bit different.

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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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Simonicusfacilis wrote:
Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:33 pm
... well I am tempted by it. I am deaf so it is a bit different.
:oops: That's definitely a good reason I totally forgot about. I can imagine that can make some roads much less scary for you.
But then the lack of an audible warning from the Karoo is not a problem anyway ;)

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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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NOW is the time to get a varia for under £100 on amazon.

the support with karoo for varia is GOOD.

yes there are obviously cases where audio is preferred.
but, for example, where there is frequent traffic you end up turning off the beeps (well, i do).

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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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I some times wish it could pick up other cyclists as well as other traffic, the few times that I'm slow enough for other riders to catch up, it would nice to know they are closing to me before I stop or turn off to the right etc.

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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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nordog wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:10 pm
I some times wish it could pick up other cyclists as well as other traffic, the few times that I'm slow enough for other riders to catch up, it would nice to know they are closing to me before I stop or turn off to the right etc.
You should be hand-signaling your intentions even if you don't think there's anyone around. It's a good habit to get into and habits -- once formed -- are hard to break (both good and bad).

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Re: Garmin Varia Radar Support

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dthempel wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 2:53 pm
nordog wrote:
Wed Dec 04, 2019 12:10 pm
I some times wish it could pick up other cyclists as well as other traffic, the few times that I'm slow enough for other riders to catch up, it would nice to know they are closing to me before I stop or turn off to the right etc.
You should be hand-signaling your intentions even if you don't think there's anyone around. It's a good habit to get into and habits -- once formed -- are hard to break (both good and bad).
I do all the time but a lot of drivers have no idea what the up & down wave is for (slowing down) or the arm that swings around & around (to turn left) only the arms that turn right or left, most have no idea that they have the toggle switch in their own car or the handbrake they stay in gear with the brake lights on for ages I have time to switch the engine off and still be waiting for some to move forward. Most drivers of today would not pass the driving test say 40 years ago or in any of the three services.

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